. >> ryan: we put it together with a former clinton advisor -- >> biden: who disavows it. >> ryan: here is the point martha -- if we don't fix this problem pretty soon then current seniors get cut. here is the problem. 10,000 people are retiring every single day in america today and they will for 20 years -- >> biden: martha if they just allow medicare to bargain for the cost of drugs like medicaid can. that will save $156 billion right off of the bat -- >> ryan: and it will deny seniors choices. >> biden: they are not denied. folks all of your seniors out there? have you been denied choices -- >> ryan: because it is working right now -- >> if it could help solve the problem, why not very slowly raise the medicare eligibility age by two years. >> biden: i was there when we did that with social security in 1983. i was one of a few people sitting in the room. we all said as long as everybody is in the deal and everybody is making some sacrifice we can find a way. we made the system solvent to 2033. we will not, though be part of any voucher plan eliminating -- the voucher says mom, when y